PRESS: THE NEWS, INTERVIEWS… YEAR 2005

1. INTERVIEW TO THE GREAT MASTER OF ORDER ILLUMINATI IN THE VANGUARD

GABRIEL LOPEZ DE ROJAS: “WE LIVED PUT UNDER BY CHEAP SPELLS”

Ima Sanchís, Vanguard (Barcelona) - 20/08/2005 “I am 39 years old. I was born and alive in Barcelona. I am separated, alive in pair and have a daughter of 17 years. I return to be athlete and I compete in the World Championship. I am at the front of the Illuminati Order and Societas OTO (Ordo Templi Orientalis). I am communist with some imprint libertarian and atheistic”. My published work.

“By the footpath of Lucifer” (Martinez Rock).

- To you go Marx, Engels and Bakunin to him?

- Yes, those are my philosophers, who by the way in some of their texts do not speak bad of Lucifer, Bakunin says in God and the State that was the great rebel and the first emancipador of the world.

- Lucifer is the disobedient angel?

- That is for the Judeo-Christian tradition. But in fact it gave the light so that the man freed itself of the chains of the tyranny. The religion is dogma and what Lucifer does, or its myth, is to rebel itself against the dogma.

- Is Lucifer the fundamental figure of the Illuminati?

- No, for the Illuminati the fundamental figure is the own one to be human. It is the only order of the world that works with the rite of 13 degrees of initiation of the illuminated ones of Bavaria of century XVIII, an initiation system that helps to discover the motto: “Homo Est Deus” (Man Is God).

- Are the 13 degrees very complicated?

- They are based on traditional routes of initiation, the Masonic rite is the base and disciplines like: yoga, , cabala, tantra and sumbolism. It consists of a daily work of introspection and a calmed evolution.

- What aim does the work enable one to reach? - The initiation is a process of increase of the conscience. We are caught in a pile of traps that subjugate to us and limit; the initiation looks for that the man frees itself and discovers that one is the thy own divinity.

- Explain the traps?

- The distractions that the system uses so that people do not think about him/herself.

- Was The Illuminati very persecuted?

- Yes, they very little defended preservative expositions even in policy. The man has a preservative pulsation, he tries to conserve what has, and I believe that must to the fear death. The order was dissolved in 1785 and his founder, Adam Weishaupt, university professor of Philosophy, was condemned until death defendant to plot a coup d'etat.

- These orders are lobbies of being able?

- In USA presidents ride on these lobbies, are put under the pressures of the masonry, of the Moon sect - that controls several Para Masonic organization and mass media -. Bush and its opponent belong to the Skull and Bones. - Calavera and bones! … It sounds to Harry Potter. - Mr. Aznar also belongs, appears in the dictionary of sects of Manuel Guerra, the main specialist in sects of the Catholic Church in Spain. - She is only a student organization. - Defendant to support at its moment to the Nazi party. - They seem to me all very hierarchic. - Between the Illuminati everything is put under voting and we accepted to any type of person, sex, race and condition. The regular masonry does not accept to women and in the United States in many lodges they do not accept black. - There is something troubles to me of its biography: had you revelations? - He is something very common, has happened to them to almost all the great masters. And if it has read the Bible will know that king Solomon was an expert in those contacts. Lead at great length the Old Testament.

- To what I must pay attention?

- In the book of Job it will see that it mentions to Satan as the right hand of God. Those are the parents of the Church that turn it the enemy, conservative fanatics who deformed the personages. San Agustín was an expert in it, a pagan who attacks against the pagan tradition and associates a great part of the old Gods to Satán, to those places like great enemy of God An absolute delusion. The first Christianity was not thus.

- To you you appeared to him Lucifer?

- No, Baphomet or God of the light, figure associated to the medieval knight templar. But to contact with organizations is very easy, are techniques that any initiate uses, cábala Hebrew explains them.

- Man, but very common is not…

- In fact you contact with same you, is an answer of your deeper I. It is not more than a work tool. I declare atheist, because I do not believe in the existence of God nor of the Devil, and that is for me the initiation process, an investment to discover that there is the more no God that the man.

- What plus has learned in that process?

- There are broken chains and that has allowed me not to limit to me by conventionalisms that do not lead to any side. I do not believe that the present man, put under a pile of norms and cheap spells, can be free.

- To what one talks about?

- To the psychological manipulation. The television is most sectarian than it exists.

- Still are made ritual crimes?

- Some crazy person will have, but most of the times they are the excuse to demonize to others, as it were it the imputation of ritual crimes to the Jews in the average age to be able to sack Judah. The Church yes that committed human sacrifices burning to thousands of people in bonfires of the Inquisition.

- Which is the sense of the life?

- To fight so that humans can have a more dignified existence.

-What is the philosopher’s stone?

- The alchemy is an initiates route of the Western tradition, the one that helps and explains the transformation you of which we spoke. The transmutation of the matter is the symbol of the evolution of the own operator who understands finally that he is a small great architect of the universe that must transform its reality and the one that surrounds to him, that is the philosopher’s stone.

IN T-SHIRT

The great master of the Illuminati that has all the degrees of the most important Masonic rites, comes to see me “the Vanguard” dressed in t-shirt from braces and short trousers. No question remains without an answer pulcra and documented. But to him in fact it does not delude to speak to him of the subject of his 17 books. Its new one crossed is athletics: “In the eighty he was one of the best ones. Soon I married and there am past average life studying and initiating to me in diverse Masonic rites of the Western tradition. But now already from greater, something tired, I have returned to athletics. I am going to leave the orders and in my next book I want to explain the indication rites to clear all the excessive secrecy, because naked of you intrigue are not more than a useful method of growth”.

2. INTERVIEW TO THE GREAT MASTER OF ORDER ILLUMINATI IN THE VASCO NEWSPAPER

GABRIEL LOPEZ DE ROJAS: “THE RITE OF THE ILLUMINATED ONES SERVES SO THAT THEIR MEMBERS DISCOVER THEIR DIVINITY”

Alvaro Bermejo, Basque Newspaper (Bilbao) - 7/03/2005

- On 1995, a young person of hardly 28 years founds the Spanish version of the Order of the Illuminati. Its referring one was and continues being Lucifer?

- My only referring one was the one of the Illuminati de Baviera of century XVIII. I recovered its tradition and it’s Rite after 200 years of its dramatic end. However, yes it is certain that in the mentioned tradition I found the Luciferianism and, a posterior, the Luciferianism.

- Hay differences between Satanism, Luciferianinism and Luciferian?

- Yes. The Satanism uses the figure of Satan like symbol that releases of taboos and the conventional moral. The Luciferianism considers to Lucifer like a divine angel, whereas the Luciferianism observes it like God, having both a initiatic and transforming character.

- You were born he himself year in which Antón the LaVey founded the first Church of Satán, 1966. Considers predestining?

- If there is something of predestination, obvious it does not have anything to do with the LaVey - although of which I do not have a good opinion.

- In his book it affirms that the LaVey was an inoffensive eccentric, nevertheless in the process that were followed against him and David de Meola, in Los Angeles, videos projected where this last one appeared dismantling an alive baby to discovered face.

Costs to believe it to Him?

- I do not know the case, but it remembers me to the myth of the ritual crimes that have served to disqualify to that they did not please to the Catholic Church: the Jews, masons, the templar, the witches, the Cáthars… - In his book he assures to have had real visions of the Horned God from his childhood.

Possession, autosuggestion or “illumination”?

- I have never gotten to have it absolutely clear. But it is certain that it could be something supernatural. - Nevertheless, his first initiation was in a Masonic lodge. The masonry, also is a way to arrive at Lucifer?

- Without a doubt, and I know in all his fullness the Luciferian tradition the masonry. One of the Luciferian Masonic degrees is third of the Old and Accepted Scottish Rite: Teacher.

- Mario Conde has become the paradigm of the man who falls from the peak of the power to the darkness. Mason, Satanist, Illuminati?

- The condition of mason of Mario Conde is well-known. In my book it explained this fact and I deny his condition of Illuminati.

- You assure to be watched and to be contacted by the old CESID. So that they look for to him, so that they persecute to him?

- The old CESID investigated to us because it thought that a nexus of the Order with Mario existed in the foreign Conde and intelligence services. In my book; I recognize to have passed: several information of esoteric Neo- Nazis to a foreign intelligence service, and to have relation with accused people to be spies of the KGB. - But in what the rituals of the Illuminati consist, what has of immoral, illegal or dangerous, and what aim persecutes?

- The only purpose of the Rite of the Illuminated ones of Bavaria is that the members discover their divinity and are able to become they and to transform the means that surround them, being based on the freedom and the equality. The danger, in any case, would be the capacity of our Rite and System to create men free and able, none slaved submissive or easily manipulated.

- Another one of the common places about its order is that it is relatively easy to enter her… but very difficult to leave.

- Difficult Exit? Fantasy goes. It sounds to Dan Brown, False completely. One enters and it leaves when one wishes it.

- It details many questions of protocol, many titles to everyone more rimbombante but, as soon as a line of mysterious or philosophical thought is noticed. To the Illuminati, is enough to them with repeating dogmas and Decalogues or cultivate the Cartesian doubt, and even the internal discrepancy?

- The book is autobiographical; the philosophy would be for another book. In any case, I explain our philosophy to him. Surpassed the idealism that thinks that the destiny of the man and the world is patrimony of “supernatural” forces and prisoner the materialism that locates to the man like only God and owner of itself, of their means and its destiny, the members of the last degrees undertakes a task of transformation of means, being based on the ideological conscience that comes determined by philosophers: Weishaupt, Marx, Engels and Bakunin.

- The Masonic currency Vitriol is detached thus: “Visit interiorem terrae, rectifying invenies hides lapidem” - Visit the interior of the Earth, and rectifying you will find the stone hidden. And you rectify much?

- Every day, because everything undergoes a process of continuous transformation; that I learned it when younger when she was an outstanding mediofondista athlete. - Its book is sprinkled of continuous and raised invectives against the Christianity. One: Does not fear to become a species of inquisitor to the inverse one? And two: what has made him the Christ so that it hates so much to him?

- I do not hate Jesus, nor try to be an inquisitor. Main Jesus is figure in several of our degrees like the Sovereign Prince of the Rosacruz, where he explains himself that he was not more than a Hebrew teacher to whom their disciples added to myths like the one of death and resurrection to him of previous Gods, like Egyptian Osiris. - “The Code gives Vinci” has put of the present time the legend of the Priory of Sion. Were you in the mystery?

- I knew several members in 1998. And I discovered some interiorities of the Order, of which I speak in my book: Nothing remarkable. - The templar it was blamed to them to render cultured to the Baphomet. How is explained that those to those who the safekeeping of Santo Sepulcro was entrusted, had treatments with the Devil?

- Baphomet is the God of the Light that was embraced by Templars, yes, still defending Santo Sepulcro. It is necessary to respect the conscience of everyone. - It assures that in 1999 that same Baphomet corporeizó before you and you revealed him a prophetic book. What prophecies have been fulfilled already and which are to be fulfilled?

- We spoke of the Liber Zión. It was an experience similar to the one of my childhood. On the prophecies, I can say that they have been fulfilled enough: the Illuminati Order already is in more than twenty-five countries.

- To where you know it, sees Spain like an interesting country for Lucifer? - Spain is a deeply catholic country, with one long inquisitorial tradition. It does not seem an appropriate place for the freedom of cult with fullness. - To the 38 years, and after to have crossed all the footpath of the initiation, what it has left to do?

- To extend my System, the Redism, and its two orders, the Illuminati Order and Societas OTO, to part to try to take to the practice the last objective of the Illuminati: an emancipated Humanity.

OF GOOD RED

It was born in Barcelona in 1966. After passing through athletics and pop music, it founded the Illuminati Order and Societas OTO, already implanted in twenty-five countries.

It has all the degrees of the most important Masonic rites: 97º of the Egyptian Masonry 33º of the Old and Accepted Scottish rite XXº of the Order of Memphis of Rumania and so on.

“By the footpath of Lucifer” it gathers his autography.

OF ALIVE VOICE I LIKE the method I DETEST the lack of order IT ENCHANTS Paris to ME, the south of France I DETEST the people who embrace the “culture” sweepings IT FASCINATES the Full Moon to ME in the middle of the night of old Castilla THEY LOSE the “Ten to ME melodies Basque”, of Guridi IT GAINS the transformation to ME, the revolution IT PUTS the fight to ME ME INDISPONE the lack of dream or rest IT INFURIATES the noise and the Latin scandal to ME IT LEAVES to COLD the press ME of the heart IT WARMS UP the policy to ME IT DISTURBS an unjustified attack to ME IT STUNS the lie to ME IT CONFUSES the lack of freedom of the men and the towns to ME A transforming idea of the society INSTILLS Spirit to ME ME ATERRA not to control everything what I do IT ENAMORS intelligence to ME IT REPELS the lack to ME of intelligence, of personality IT SEDUCES the genius to ME, from Gaudí to Maradona

YEAR 2004 1. INTERVIEW TO THE GREAT MASTER OF ORDER ILLUMINATI IN THE NEWSPAPER OF VALENCIA GABRIEL LOPEZ DE ROJAS: “PEOPLE PREFER TO LIVE IN THE FANTASY”

Antonio J. Ubero, Newspaper of Valencia (Valencia, Spain) - 14/12/2004 The Great Master of the Illuminati puts face to him to the new mythology “The truth does not sell”. That butcher it express Gabriel Lopez de Rojas, re founder and Great Master of the Illuminati, the Societas OTO (Ordo Templi Orientalis) and creator of a system of initiation structured in two Masonic rites and that denominates Redism, when he defines the unusual interest of the society by all the related one to the secret societies and the historical enigmas, caused as a result of the publication of books of Dan Brown, `the code Gives to Vinci' and `Angels and demons, builds this last one that it has like protagonists to the Illuminati.

Before the provoked attention, no longer only by these books, in which prime the fantasy on the reality, but by the enormous amount of made publications under protection of such, in which the fascinating world of the classified orders of more or less rigorous form is approached, Gabriel Lopez de Rojas has been decided to put face to that new mythology and, fruit of that effort, is `By the footpath of Lucifer' (Martinez Rock), a book with which his author tries that the truth is known, although “people prefer to live in the fantasy”.

A perfectly calculated risk, since although the human being needs myths, because “it is a religious animal” able to even idolize to the own one to be human in supposedly opposite ideological surroundings to the idolatry, like are those of the extreme left or the anarchism, is not less certain that also he needs to nourish itself of the doubt to reaffirm his faith in those myths. For that reason this book provokes interest in the reader become fond of to the enigmas of fast consumption, to also nourish its anxiety of mystery with a dose of reality.

And it is that most peculiar of everything it is that the mystery that surrounds to these societies indeed emanates of which is, at the moment, incomprehensible the human being: itself.

“With the initiation the progress of the person is tried, to equip it with its own divinity so that he is conscious of his importance from the freedom and equality”, it explains. In short something so prosaic, but so dangerous because the human being uses his nature to be to: itself fleeing from dogmas and freeing themselves that the slavery of the religious cult. The business of hidden it Gabriel Lopez de Rojas does not criticize the enormous book production about the enigmas of the secret societies; simply he limits himself a to express his sadness before which he is not more than an excellent strategy of marketing research that tries pingües benefits. But the reality is very different.

YEAR 2002 1. INTERVIEW TO THE GREAT MASTER OF ORDER ILLUMINATI IN THE NEWSPAPER THE REASON

GABRIEL LOPEZ DE ROJAS: “THE MASONRY HAS A TRADITION LUCIFERINA”

Juan Manuel Rodriguez, Reason (Madrid, Spain) - 13/11/2002 Robert Ambelain, stop degree of several rites and all a Masonic authority, confirm this thesis Gabriel Lopez de Rojas, mason initiated in 1992, that at the present time have all the degrees of the Old and Accepted Scottish Rite, Great Master and founder of the Para Masonic organization Illuminati Order and author of several books of masonry and secret societies as the “Guide the International of the Secret Societies” (Editions G, 1998) or “Masonry: history, rites and mysteries” (Editions G, 2002) have explained to the REASON that “one of the deepest mysteries of the Masonic rites, the legend of Hiram Abiff, keeps awake the luciferina tradition of the masonry”.

“The Masonic legend of Hiram Abiff, associated to the third Masonic degree Maestro, and incorporated to the speculative masonry between 1720 and 1723, is clearly Luciferian”, explains Gabriel Lopez de Rojas.The masonry associates of mythical form its origins to a legend located during theconstruction of the Temple of Solomon by Hiram Abiff (also Abív or Abif), a smelter ofShot and son of a widow of the tribe of Neftalí, after that divided to the workers into apprentices,companions and teachers. Each degree had santo and sign who kept privacy.

Hiram was assassinated by companions, who tried to know the word secret, and the instruments that served to assassinate it were the compass, the square and a mallet, symbols that the Lodges at the present time preside over. The spirit of Hiram would have incarnated itself in the new Teacher, of that would receive their wisdom all the teachers masons, known as the “children the widow” in relation to this smelter of Shot and whose figure is very present in the ritual of the degree third of the masonry.

Masonic Luciferianism Founder of Order Illuminati comments that the Masonic legend “that appears in the Masonic masters of Hiram Abiff, a smelter who sent the King of Shot to Solomon, and in whom dwelled the spirit of the wisdom, teacher mason par excellence” explains “that to Hiram he appeared to him in dreams Tubal Caín (that is in addition word to passage of the Companion in the French rite and of the Teacher in the Old and Accepted Scot), an ancestor his, that transmitted the Luciferian tradition to him”. “Tubal Caín revealed Hiram who this one was descending of Iblis or Samael, that is to say, of Lucifer, who, according to the Masonic legend, copulate with Eva and was father of Caín”. Lopez de Rojas also makes notice that the Masonic legend indicates that “the sister of Tubalcaín was Naema, the mother of all the demons, because came from the side of Caín”.

Robert Ambelain, all an authority between masones, with all the degrees of the Old and Accepted Scottish Rite, including 33°; all the degrees of the Rectified Scottish Rite, including those of the Internal procedure and all the degrees of the Rite of Memphis- Misraïm, until 95° including, among other many Masonic rites credentials”, in the same way explain in their book “the Masonic secret” (Ed. Martinez-Rock) the legend of Hiram Abiff, assures, before exposing their genealogy, that this one “will make shake to certain Franc masons innocent, that they identify to Hiram with Christ” and speech of Iblis, the first ancestor of the smelter, calling it “the Rebellious Angel, the Tempter, the Angel of the death”. It adds in addition Ambelain that “of this strange tradition was born a habit, the one to denominate valley to the place in which degrees of the masonry meet to certain stops” and continues affirming that “in Hebrew, the word is translated by Gehenna, term that designates the infernal plane in the Jewish religion”, among other “horrifying” explanations.

The REASON has asked on the possible relation between masonry and Luciferianism contained in the legend of Hiram Abiff Tejerina Ascent, Great Teacher of Grand Lodge Spanish Symbolic (GLSE), that has expressed “to feel surprised” by the question and has affirmed not to have “knowledge some on that subject”, rejecting this relation and indicating that “for me, the masonry is mainly a school of thought and ethical reflection”. In the page Web of the GLSE, nevertheless, it appears a bibliography in which the “Dictionary of the Franc masonry” (Akal, 1997) with the following words is recommended: “It makes available of the reader the keys to approach the inner reality of the Order and to discover the profiles of the initiation way”. His author, Juan Carlos Daza, who, according to affirms in the book, is or was member of the Great Symbolic Council of the GLSE, gathers in this dictionary the legend of practically exact Hiram to since Ambelain and the Lopez de Rojas do. In the work he says in addition that in the allegorical sense of this story is “the truest secret of the teacher degree mason”. He continues saying that “the Gnostic connection we can state it in the Eblis (Lucifer), that is not Satán, but the fallen Angel of Venus”.

This newspaper also has consulted to the Great Provincial Teacher of Castile of the Great Lodge of Spain more numerous Masonic Obedience in affiliation of ours país, Manuel Moreno, who has denied “categorically that Masons have something to do with Luciferian concept, "explaining that the legend of Hiram Abiff, are exposed as Robert Ambelain or Lopez de Rojas, is a subjective version, arguing that "if relationship were true, would have said so in the papal condemnations. "